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Hasn't Charmed become the longest-running show with female leads?

I remember it being good in the beginning, but sadly I found that it became somewhat predictable and lacklustre, suffering from "freak of the week" syndrome in later series.

But then, the trends have to start with the writers... I write a lot of fiction and my characters are balanced between male and female, but considering that it's just so much more interesting to see women breaking conventions set by their male counterparts, why aren't there more women around in big-budget films and series?

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On July 18th, 2006 06:14 pm (UTC), jadecat commented:
but considering that it's just so much more interesting to see women breaking conventions set by their male counterparts,

Sadly, while I agree with this- I don't think the majority of people do. There are those, like the self-proclaimed Prairie Muffins, that would rather see women maintaining their historical place beside/behind men.

However, I do think that in general we're still making strides forward- especially in sci fi. Take the show Farscape- they had very strong female leads that were themselves and not inferior to their male counterparts. (one of the things I liked about that show) More recently Battlestar Gallectica made a come back- replacing a former male character with a female one.

We're getting there, I just don't think we're there yet.
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On July 18th, 2006 06:21 pm (UTC), iltaru replied:
Max Guevara, Zoe Alleyne, Buffy, there are loads more but due to intense headache my brain isn't working at the moment, are all powerful women.
It's really interesting how it's science fiction/fantasy that's made the most progress with gender equality on-screen. I wonder why that is?
Due to people like these 'Prairie Muffins', I suppose. Who are they? What do they want, apart from the repression of women?

(I never understood that. If women give birth... surely they're just as important? If not more? I mean, you need fewer males to continue a species than females. A radical feminist friend of mine stated that this was why we had armies and priesthoods: surplus males seeking power over the rest of the world.)
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On July 18th, 2006 10:43 pm (UTC), zarabithia replied:
It's really interesting how it's science fiction/fantasy that's made the most progress with gender equality on-screen. I wonder why that is?

Sci-fi kicks butt, that's why. ;) Actually, I think we see the importance of women in sci fi for the same reason that we saw Uhura and Chekov in the original Trek. It's science fiction, so it's easier for people to believe, somehow? It might be hard (for some people) to watch a woman be President, but a woman fighting demons? Eh, why not - demons don't exist, and neither do physically superior women.

In essence, I think Sci Fi has more gender equality because it's a genre where the normal boundaries are stretched. After all, it's pretty silly to stand toe to toe with a blue skinned alien with antennae without any problem, yet still hold on to the base sexist principles. There are, of course, some sci fi programs that continue to do that, but they are gloriously few and far between.
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On July 19th, 2006 09:27 pm (UTC), iltaru replied:
Maybe it's simply that in science fiction and fantasy, gender roles become meaningless in the face of whatever superior intelligence/species/godly threat occurs?
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On July 19th, 2006 06:28 am (UTC), bri_himself commented:
Hasn't Charmed become the longest-running show with female leads?

Probably because it didn't push up against the glass ceiling too hard. Once it was picked up for its second run, 'Charmed' became about as feminist as bread - and equally fascinating.

why aren't there more women around in big-budget films and series?

I suspect it's because the upper echelon of TV writers - and, more importantly, their various producers and studio executives - are men. Roll on, gay invasion of the media!
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On July 19th, 2006 09:32 pm (UTC), iltaru replied:
Bread is so more fun than Charmed! You can toast it, put things on it, turn it into puddings, throw it at pigeons... Yeek. I feel Charmed reaches its anti-feminist (and anti-audience-interest) heights when Phoebe's running around searching for a man. Lovely, isn't it, that a gorgeous and powerful woman has to look so hard to find a suitable partner?

Joss Whedon, though... what a legend. Though Mal Reynolds is probably my favourite character in the 'verse, ever, anywhere, that has nothing to do with his being male. Though - Zoe? Inara? River? Kaylee? All empowered women. In fact, the weaknesses are more often portrayed in the men. And I need only say "Jayne" to illustrate that point! :D

There we are, another reason why Firefly shouldn't have been cancelled - empowerment of women.
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